LAUREL & HARDY:
THE HAT FACTS (Part 1)
By Tyler St. Mark
© 2010 For
Website Syndication/All Other Rights Reserved
Exploring the numerous Laurel & Hardy websites worldwide,
it appears that the subject of the legendary team’s film
wardrobe comes up frequently. Most often discussed, of
course, is their derbies. Perhaps it’s ironic that their
most notable lost film is titled “Hat’s Off” (1927)
because also missing from public record are the simple
facts pertaining to Stan and Ollie’s iconic headwear.
When I began seriously researching Stan Laurel not long
after his passing in 1965, I was eleven years old and,
along with my best friend, already celebrated in our
community for our impersonation of Laurel & Hardy. We were
often excused from class to give special performances,
appear in local talent shows, or participate in charity
events and, by the time we entered high school, we had our
own professional touring company and were being
interviewed in newspapers nationwide as an exceptional
novelty act.

The author & his derby, age 15, as Stan Laurel in 1969
No doubt this greatly influenced certain producers in 1975
to cast me in the very first theatre production based on
the life of the 74 year old comedian aptly titled, “An
Evening With Mr. Laurel,” even though I was greatly
younger than the comedy legend and would have to undergo
several hours of aging makeup created and applied by Don
Post Studios.
Additionally, with relatives and mentors firmly entrenched
in the entertainment industry, I was fortunate to have
extraordinary access to those who had known and/or had
collaborated with Stan and Babe during their illustrious
career. However, if youth is wasted on the young, then so
is opportunity since I shamefully took for granted the
information I obtained from these gracious and insightful
people who worked and played with Stan & Ollie; failing to
make any permanent record of their insights. So, I’ve
forgotten far more about Laurel & Hardy than I can recall
now.
Nonetheless, one of the subjects I have managed to retain
the facts about is Stan Laurel’s film wardrobe. The
original motive for procuring this information was merely
to achieve an accurate costume of my own. Many years later
now, it appears the information I gleaned back then is
unknown to many in the Laurel & Hardy Fancy today; so I
hope to resolve a few uncertainties regarding Dick und
Doof’s Derbies.
Among the past resources for this obscure information were
people behind the scenes like costume designer Sam Benson
and wardrobe assistant Carlyle Hughes who were among those
responsible for providing Stan and Babe’s wardrobe at Hal
Roach Studios and later at 20th Century Fox and M-G-M.
“Sammy” Benson was not only a great wardrobe supervisor,
he was a close friend of my Pop and so was his daughter,
Marjorie. When she heard in 1974 that we were involved
with a play based on the life of Stan Laurel, she was of
particular assistance. Marjorie helped us track down many
rare items for our theatre production and patiently
answered even my silliest questions regarding her late
father’s history with Stan going back to the early days of
the Hal Roach Studios.
Carlyle was also a long time family friend and had worked
as a wardrobe assistant at various studios during the 30s
and 40s, mostly serving when and where needed. “Lyle” knew
just about everything there was to know about period
costumes from seams to buckles. He worked at MGM while
Stan and Babe were there and his specialty was making a
man look plausible in a dress—whenever necessary. Lyle
knew every star’s wardrobe foibles as well as all of the
studio gossip. Pop used to say that “Lyle knows which star
needs padding and which needs paddling.” Lyle himself
often mused archly that he “never met a mannequin I didn’t
like.”
Another resource was Ruth Burch, a veteran casting
director who had known The Boys well and worked with them
in at least one film. She, like the Bensons and Hughes,
was very helpful to us during those years we were
researching Stan and gathering obscure facts about the
team.
So here you are; straight from these and other notable
industry colleagues who knew or worked with The Boys: the
“hat facts” as best I can recall them…
Stan’s normal hat size was in fact 7 1/8 (His daughter,
Lois Laurel-Hawes, has confirmed this; she has several of
her father’s street hats). However, he deliberately wore
his character derby (he rarely called it a bowler) a size
or two smaller so that it sat higher on his head. So, his
derbies were usually 6 7/8 or an English size 7. Babe’s
hat size was, of course, larger; 7 ½ - 7 ¾ but here’s an
inside secret; in those films where they mix up their
hats, Babe’s derby was usually substituted with an even
larger one—so that it would look so humorously oversized
on Stan and, likewise, Stan’s derby was substituted for an
even smaller one when placed on Babe’s head.

Stan with trademark high crowned flat-brim derby
Contrary to popular belief (and the Roach publicity
department), Stan and Ollie did not wear one particular
brand of derby—they wore whatever the wardrobe department
could obtain at the time which included numerous brands
and several variations over the years. The reason for this
was purely economical. The Boys went through a shipload of
derbies; both as wardrobe and as props. Although, for the
sake of continuity, they attempted to retain the same
derby in each film; Laurel & Hardy could go through as
many as a dozen derbies in a month of film-making. This
doesn’t include the derbies they gave away to friends,
visitors, and colleagues visiting the lot. Nor does it
include derbies worn by their stand-ins or stunt doubles.
Our Gang’s “Stymie” Beard was the recipient of one of
Stan’s derbies which he wore proudly during his brief film
career and afterward. Stan even took to keeping spare
derbies on hand as he didn’t have the heart to refuse
anyone brazen enough to ask for one as a keepsake.
Although he wore a traditional derby in their initial
films, Stan soon adopted a flat-brimmed derby (1 to 1.5
inches) with a high crown (4.5 to 5 inches). Some devotees
have described it as an Irish or school boy derby; others
refer to it as an equestrian or riding derby. Some
aficionados insist that Stan chose this style to look more
impish and childlike, lending additional innocence to his
character. Others maintain the riding derby was associated
with the “rich and snooty” back then and this, along with
his standup collar and batwing bowtie, gave his bohemian
character a kind of half-assed dignity. My recollection
regarding Stan’s reason in choosing this style is simple;
he thought the short brim and higher crown made him look
thinner and funnier.
In any case, whenever derbies with a “stingy“ brim could
not be found for Stan, the studio hatter would simply cut
the brim down by another half inch or so and replace the
grosgrain edge trim. If in a hurry, the trim was glued
rather than sewn and, if you look closely in several film
stills where Stan’s derby has been drenched, the brim
edge-trim appears to have come loose in places.
Eventually, the studio hired a local hatter who made
custom hat molds for The Boys so that their derbies would
look consistent from film to film. Of course, Stan’s derby
was often customized for films like The Bohemian Girl. I
was told that the eight inch crown was achieved simply
(and cheaply) by cutting the brim off one of Stan’s
derbies and stacking it on top of another, then hiding the
seam with an extra wide cloth hat band.

Stan & Ollie might go through a dozen derbies in a month
of filming
Although Stan always wore a firm or “stiffed felt” derby
in his Roach films, when Laurel & Hardy worked for 20th
Century Fox and MGM, he was remanded to wearing a soft
felt derby—again for budgetary reasons. Sammy (Benson)
told my Pop that one of the many outrages suffered by Stan
while at Fox was the studio’s insistence upon exercising
total authority over their wardrobe and makeup. When Stan
balked, the studio issued an ultimatum; either Laurel &
Hardy wore what they were told or they would pay for their
own wardrobe! Stan, who always had creative control over
their films at Roach Studios, never forgot or forgave Fox
for this and other grave offenses. Forever afterward, he
bitterly referred to them as “those Fox people.”
As a result of this clash over costuming, Sammy had to
deftly maneuver between what Fox execs demanded and what
Stan insisted their characters would wear. Not
surprisingly, Stan’s wardrobe in these final films looks a
bit awkward; his character seems almost uncomfortable
wearing the winter-weight tweed double-breasted suits that
Fox insisted upon. In many film stills and publicity
photos, his wardrobe appears somewhat stiff and
ill-fitting. Stan may not have been amused with his
wardrobe at Fox but he did, in his own way, have the last
laugh!
Regardless, Stan actually grew to appreciate the
durability and comfort of the soft felt derby, according
to Sammy’s daughter, Marjorie, and wore them for the
remainder of his film career. Indeed, according to Lois
(his daughter) by the late 40s, Stan was obtaining them
from a Los Angeles hattery which kept a supply of
“schoolboy” derbies for a nearby parochial school.
Upon the passing of his beloved film partner in 1957, Stan
stated simply, “That is the end of Laurel & Hardy.” As if
to underscore this, Stan never publicly donned another
derby after that. At least no photograph appears to exist
in which he is wearing one. Indeed, according to his
daughter, by the time he settled in at the Oceana in Santa
Monica during the late 50s, he no longer owned a derby.
According to a close friend of his at the time, when asked
if he desired to have one on hand, he replied
dismissively, “What for?”
For the collector, of course, having one of Stan or Babe’s
original derbies is the “holy grail” of Laurel & Hardy
memorabilia and, although I have inspected perhaps a half
dozen of them in forty-five years, only a few of them were
likely the genuine article. This is because, during their
countless public appearances, The Boys often donned random
derbies handed to them for a quick photo or to oblige an
eager fan or official. An example would be the derbies
momentarily modeled by Stan and Babe during their
appearance on This Is Your Life (1954). Stan’s derby is
clearly larger than usual with a wide curved brim. These
“ad hoc” hats would eventually become identified as
authentic Laurel & Hardy wardrobe. One such derby, neither
Stan’s style nor his size, sold online a few years ago for
$5,500. However one of Stan’s later soft-felt derbies,
(likely the last he ever wore) sold at Christy’s recently
for over $26,000 underscoring its rarity.

Stan grew to appreciate the flexible soft-felt derby
However, uncovering an authentic derby worn by Stan or
Babe is not as impossible as you might think. Film and
theatrical wardrobe has a short career and a very long
storage life. Roach, like most film studios at the time,
wasted little and recycled everything. Worn or damaged
wardrobe was recycled for shabbier film characters. With a
patch here or re-stitch there, the item would easily suit
a hobo, factory worker, or perhaps a field hand in the
next two-reeler!
So then it goes to reason that not every hat and/or derby
thrashed by The Boys during film production would have
been discarded. Some most certainly found their way back
to the Roach Studios Wardrobe Department and,
subsequently, out into the world. Remember, studios didn’t
view this stuff the way they do today. Back then, wardrobe
was considered, well, wardrobe and sat for years unused
before being sold to another studio or a costume company
or a wardrobe warehouse. Few items were catalogued or
labeled in those days so it is like searching for diamonds
in a coal mine to locate an authentic wardrobe relic but,
every so often, a precious gem will suddenly reveal itself
as if to say, “At last you found me—what took so long?!”
This is the perfect opportunity to tender my firm belief
that such memorabilia has a mind of its own. We do not
find these wonderful artifacts so much as they find us and
we never really own them, we are merely their caretakers
and, therefore, have a supreme obligation to share them
with the world, particularly younger generations of film
fans. Respectfully, those who collect these wonderful
relics merely to horde, posture, or impress others do no
real service to the memory of Laurel & Hardy and waste
valuable opportunities to inspire new enthusiasts.
That being said, Stan and Babe went through literally
hundreds of hats during their career—like Buster Keaton.
In fact, a math wiz once calculated for me the odds of
coming across one of Laurel & Hardy’s derbies—and the
statistical possibility might amaze you! However, you need
patience, diligence and, of course, to know where to look.
These wardrobe relics are rarely marked but may often bear
indubitable evidence which points to their authenticity.
For example, Stan often wrote or printed his name on the
inward facing (hidden) sweatband. Stan labeled most
personal items—a habit from his music hall days to
distinguish his property. He even had some of his derbies
imprinted on the outward facing sweatband with his name
but few are known to have survived intact—the custom
lettering simply wore off with use over time.

The collector’s grand prize: one of Stan’s early flat-brim
derbies
Derbies which were handled in their films (not just worn)
by The Boys were usually stamped inside with the Hal Roach
Studios brand as they were considered props rather than
wardrobe. Bernie Hogya (LettersFromStan.com) has one such
derby in his collection. These are the type most often
found today as they were numerous and often acquired by
crew or studio personnel. To add to the confusion, derbies
worn by Laurel & Hardy’s stand-ins or stunt doubles were
often identically marked so it’s not always easy to
determine the exact provenance of every studio hat.
Although they are forever identified with their trademark
derbies, Laurel & Hardy actually wore more other hats in
their 106 films together. Yes, film for film, Stan and
Ollie wore bowlers less often than you may think. Part of
the reason for this was simply that Stan loved wearing
different hats (figuratively and literally) and spared no
opportunity to crown their characters with different
headgear whenever and wherever possible in their scripts.
Even between films, when they went off on their European
tours, The Boys eagerly donned a variety of hats; berets
in Paris, balmorals in Scotland, tamoshanters in Ireland.
And more often than not, in the countless photos which
chronicle their theatrical treks across the continents,
Stan is wearing one of several fedoras he favored and,
upon occasion, he would flip the wide brim up in front for
humorous affect.
Most importantly, Mr. Laurel understood what was necessary
to project the correct balance between their characters’
idiocies and the “half-assed dignity” (as Stan called it)
they desperately strived to maintain in their films which
only makes their lunacies funnier. Their film wardrobe,
particularly their derbies, was always a vital part of
this conspiracy between dumb and dapper.
Part 2 of “The Hat Facts,” will address some of the
numerous other hats worn by Laurel & Hardy both in and
outside of their films.
St. Mark is a writer/producer/actor in Los Angeles and
presently in preproduction on the reprise of his 1974
landmark production now titled “Stan Laurel Backstage.”
www.stanlaurel.com
for part two of Tyler St. Mark's
excellent paper concerning
Stan and Ollie’s iconic headwear.
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